For many leaders—especially men of color—the journey to success has come with an unspoken cost: the constant pressure to conform and perform. It’s a path that often leads to burnout, disconnection, and an eventual loss of self.
That’s why, on this episode of Life + Leadership, I’m honored to be joined by Marvin Chambers, Bright Arrow Coaching partner and founder of the Onyx Leadership Collective. Marvin brings a fresh and deeply personal perspective to what it means to lead with authenticity in today’s fast-paced, high-pressure world.
Marvin’s latest book, Awakening the Onyx Spirit, offers something rare in the leadership space: a sacred pause. A moment to step away from the external noise and reconnect with who you truly are. In our conversation, he shares how intentional reflection and stillness can help leaders move from survival to purpose, from reacting to leading with clarity.
If you’ve ever felt like you’re showing up for everyone else but losing touch with yourself, this conversation is for you.
From Conforming to Centering: Reclaiming Identity at Work
Marvin shares that in his work with men of color, a troubling pattern had emerged. Many were operating not from a place of purpose or passion, but from a place of survival. The focus wasn’t on thriving—it was about simply getting through the day.
The root of this exhaustion, Marvin explains, is the expectation to conform to a leadership mold that rarely accounts for culture, values, or lived experience. “It’s not about becoming someone new,” he says. “It’s about returning to who you’ve always been.”
This insight became the foundation for Awakening the Onyx Spirit, which invites leaders to drop the mask and reconnect with their essence through daily reflection, presence, and intention. Marvin’s work challenges leaders to ask: Are you setting the tone in your life and leadership, or are you letting external expectations do it for you?
Thermostat vs. Thermometer: Leading with Intention in a BANI World
In our current environment of brittle systems, anxiety, and rapid change—what Marvin refers to as a BANI world—leaders need more than resilience. They need inner clarity. Marvin uses the metaphor of the thermostat and the thermometer to describe the difference between reactive and intentional leadership.
“We can’t control everything that happens to us,” he explains. “But we can choose how we show up.” By cultivating practices that bring stillness and focus, leaders gain the ability to respond rather than react. This shift is not about doing more—it’s about aligning more fully with what matters.
Marvin reminds us that true confidence comes from keeping the promises we make to ourselves. When we act from intention, we reclaim agency over our lives and leadership.
Authenticity as a Path to Freedom
For Marvin, authenticity isn’t a branding exercise—it’s a form of liberation. Especially for men of color who have long been asked to adapt in order to belong, finding space to be fully themselves is a radical and necessary act.
Through his coaching work and now this book, Marvin creates that space. He encourages leaders to make time, even just 10 minutes a day, to sit with themselves. To breathe. To reflect. And to ask what values, desires, and truths have been buried under the weight of expectation.
“When we are aligned with our values and purpose,” Marvin says, “we feel true to ourselves. And in that trueness comes freedom.”
In a world that rewards speed and output, Marvin’s invitation to slow down and reflect might feel countercultural. But it’s exactly what many leaders are craving—a chance to lead from a place of wholeness, not just performance.
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TRANSCRIPT
Tegan Trovato: In this episode, we explore what it means to live and lead with intention, clarity and authenticity. I’m joined by Marvin Chambers, executive coach, speaker, author and founder of Onyx Leadership Collective.
He’s also been a valued partner to Bright Arrow Coaching for many years. In today’s conversation, Marvin shares his inspiration for his new book, Awakening the Onyx Spirit, a transformational guide designed especially for men of color to slow down, reconnect and realign with their purpose. We talk about what it means to thrive in a world that often demands conformity and why mindfulness, reflection and community are essential to sustained leadership success.
Marvin also opens up about the inner and outer work of authenticity and how intentional practices, like the ones in his book, can help us break out of survival mode and step fully into our power. If you’re feeling stuck or disconnected from your why, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.
Marvin, welcome to the podcast.
Marvin Chambers: Tegan, thanks for having me.
Tegan Trovato: I have been looking forward to this. For our listeners to know, Marvin has been a partner to the Bright Arrow Coaching firm for many years now. I didn’t even look back how many, but I’m really thankful for you, Marvin.
And our clients that get to work with you are just lifelong raving fans once they get a taste of your work. So we’re just really grateful to have your partnership, number one. And two, I’m super excited about your book.
And that is what we’re going to spend most of our time talking about today.
Marvin Chambers: Excellent. Thank you. Thank you.
I really appreciate that. And I really enjoy the partnership. I think it’s been about six years now.
Tegan Trovato: So awesome. We’re so lucky. And this book is so beautifully written, a workbook, and we’ll talk about what’s behind it, what it’s all about, who it’s for, and where people can get a copy, most importantly, so we can keep this good messaging going out into the world.
So start off by telling us, what inspired you to write the book Awakening the Onyx Spirit? Like, what was that specific moment or experience that told you, this is something I need to put out into the world?
Marvin Chambers: It’s actually been a year in the making. And what I’ve really saw over the last year or so, especially in coaching a number of men of color, is this sense of, in a place of just survival. It was no longer about the best version of myself.
It was no longer just about accelerating and being everything I could be for the organizations I work in, the families I support, the communities in which I belong. It became, how do I just get through the day in many respects? And that was largely built on this kind of this notion of, I just got to conform, perform, and then hopefully succeed.
And so for me, I was seeing people were really forgetting who they really were. And it’s this adage of, as above, so below. And I was seeing so many people focus on the above, which I call the fruits, the outcomes, those desires, but forgetting about what are the values that are important to them?
How do they want to show up in their character? How are they connecting to their overall purpose? So this book was really all about, how do we create a sacred space to truly reflect, be intentional, and in some ways, even heal, through a little bit more of silence, presence, and really being in.
And so this book became, for me, a vehicle in which men of color in particular could do that.
Tegan Trovato: Beautiful. Yeah, you used two words that made my soul disconnect, which was perform and conform. I can just feel my own self disassociating when you say those two words in combination.
Also, I feel exhaustion when I imagine that being a constant.
Marvin Chambers: Absolute exhaustion. How can I just be a clock, get up every day, get out of bed, brush my teeth, get my coffee, go into the office, and get through it, and then do it another day? So the thriving, the being truly in the moment, maximizing abilities of themselves as well as the teams in which they were honored enough to lead, I saw that eroding.
This was a time such as these is a time that I think devotion like this can really be a value-added resource for me.
Tegan Trovato: Yeah. You know, I noticed you recently changed your coaching firm’s name to Onyx Leadership Collective. So I have to assume that’s related to the book.
Marvin Chambers: It is related to the book.
Tegan Trovato: Tell us all about it.
Marvin Chambers: The book was a precursor to that. It’s really all about this notion of, first of all, what is the Onyx? The Onyx in different cultures throughout the years really stands for this notion of strength, resilience, power, and protection over evil.
It’s kind of the impetus of the Onyx stone. And I took that notion with, if you look at the stone, it actually has some hints of purple, which are kind of the amethyst stone. And the amethyst really symbolizes clarity, vision, purpose, and this notion of just overall connecting with your inner wisdom and intuition.
So if you bring those two concepts together, strength, power, resilience, protection, with sobriety, and vision, and clarity, and purpose, in many ways, I call it that’s what makes a total man. And so when you take those concepts, that’s where I came up with Onyx image. And the name Onyx Leadership Collective is built on this notion of community.
And for me, it’s community from two places. One is my vision started to really create a community of other men coaches of color. We’re really kind of a small minority in ourselves in many ways.
Tegan Trovato: I was about to say.
Marvin Chambers: And so how do I find us and create a community for ourselves so that we can collectively continue to kind of grow and inspire each other, but also work with each other and support each other in terms of our businesses to help them grow? And then the second piece of the collective is how do I bring and create a safe space for men of color from a coaching perspective, where they can come together as a collective group to build community, to work through problems, and to have that really safe space to really connect again with who they really are.
And so it’s important for me from both fronts, from the individuals that are my peers, as well as those leaders in which I served to kind of create this connective and collective and community for their sustainable success.
Tegan Trovato: Great. You know this about us, Marvin at Bright Arrow. We work pretty hard to make sure that we have a nice diversified community ourselves so that our clients can see themselves in us, right?
So I very much agree that there are not many Black male coaches out there. There are not that many Black coaches, period, out there. So I’m really pleased to hear you’re creating community for folks who often feel like the underrepresented.
Even among folks who are trying to represent, coaches typically are more conscious as a people than not. So I really love that you’re filling that gap. Thank you.
Marvin Chambers: Thank you.
Tegan Trovato: You talk about mindful moments for men, especially men of color. Why is that feeling so critical today? And then what would you say, because of that, unique challenges do Onyx men face when it comes to mindfulness that mindfulness can help address?
Marvin Chambers: I think for me, and we’ve heard this, you heard this, we live in this BANI world. And BANI standing for kind of like brittle systems. We thought we had these stable constructs that really could not be broken.
We’re realizing that they’re much more fragile than we thought.
Tegan Trovato: Boy, do we know that better than ever today.
Marvin Chambers: In many different ways. Lots of anxiety today. Non-linear ways of operating.
Always believed in. There’s this kind of clear cause and effect, and that’s not always there. And then things are happening that are incomprehensible, that we never thought would happen.
And so in those types of environments of such chaos and volatility, stress reactions are natural. But because things are so chaotic and moving so quickly, it’s just, you know, people are really in this survival mode. And so it’s really important right now that we learn and focus and learn intentionality.
And that’s where mindfulness becomes so important today. To move away from the go, go, go, go, go, that is instinctual in a chaotic BANI world, to a place where you can slow things down a little bit, see the feel, breathe, pause, notice, and then it puts you in position to choose. So helping these leaders slow things down, see the big picture, is really, really important right now.
And this is really, the book is a tool to enable them to do that.
Tegan Trovato: Yeah. Well, actually, that takes me right into my next question, which is to talk about the structure of the book. So whenever I interview authors, I like to go to tell me the rationale behind how this thing was built, structured, because people don’t realize this that haven’t written books.
I have not written a book either, to be clear. But in interviewing so many authors, they put so much time into considering the structure of a book so that it flows and it speaks to the reader and the reader feels seen by the content. And I mean, it’s just so much that goes into that.
Tell us about your structure and what’s significant about how you chose to lay this out for readers.
Marvin Chambers: For me, it was about how do I create something that creates a rhythmic cadence that had a notion of some level of being cyclical, but at the same time, something that didn’t become boring, that they could really get into and be in the moment and get enthralled in. So the structure that I came up with was one of, let’s start with being in the moment and being inspired. And so for me, that’s where affirmations come in.
Something that I can sink my teeth into, really think about what does it mean for me and get me in a place where I’m able to stay in the moment and be present. So the affirmation was that for me. And so I thought that would be something that other men of color would resonate with.
Then it was about, we all need some level of mentorship. And sometimes we get that through leaders that we find inspirational, that we admire in some way. So I took quotes from men of color as well that related to a specific topic that also connected to that particular affirmation.
So it became kind of a thematic message for a particular week. So the affirmation, the inspirational quote that I gave my thoughts in terms of what it meant to me, and then asking other men as they go through this journey, what does it mean to you? To a place of reflection upon what does that mean for you in this current moment?
So you can get really clear because sometimes we have these philosophies on different topics, but we really never really think them through and the impact they have on us in a day-to-day basis as leaders.
Tegan Trovato: Or where they came from to begin with, right?
Marvin Chambers: If they’re even true for us, because we espouse, if I call it, I call it the barbershop talk. And we have conversations about everything from spirituality to relationships to business, to money, to power, all these things. But do we always step back and go, how does this align with what I want out of life?
How does this align with what I want for the organizations which I have the ability to serve and to lead? We don’t always make the connection between our philosophies and points of view and what we really want. Sometimes they’re misaligned and we’re not getting where we want to be because of that misalignment.
And then next is a call to intention. So we’ve been able to kind of be in the moment, a sense of presence through affirmation, through inspirational quotes, then moments of reflection. And now that around a particular topic, now we’ve been able to reflect on it, what do we want to do more, better, or differently in an intentional way in a particular way?
So now that’s not just about, we’re just moving through the day and whatever comes in our email boxes or whatever emergency happens where we’re reacting to. We’re now responding in an intentional way to something. And then lastly, at the ability at the end of the week for another reflection upon what the action that the intentional action.
So it’s like, what did I do? What did I learn from it? So the ability to kind of assess our learnings, but also hold ourselves accountable for executing upon our intention.
So that’s the structure of the book, 52 topics, but you don’t have to go in order. What topic speaks to you at any given moment and then taking action upon it so that you can move things forward. And what’s also important for me around the whole notion of intentionality, it’s intentionality and delivering upon our intentions creates confidence, right?
Because that’s really what confidence ultimately is. Do I keep the promises to myself? And if I’m able to do that, I create a sense of confidence in myself because I know I can deliver.
I don’t let the pressures of the day take hold anymore. I create an intention and I execute upon it.
Tegan Trovato: I hear you describing that we become the authority in our own lives, essentially.
Marvin Chambers: Absolutely. We become the authority in our own lives.
We stop being kind of a clock. We stop being the thermometer and become thermostat again, where we set the tone. We set the temperature.
We don’t let the world dictate who we are. We decide who we are, our values, our purpose, our intentions, and we stick to that. And what I found is when we actually do that, the world bends to us.
So just like that thermostat, we set it to 72, it may be on 50, but if you set it at 72, the temperature is going to get to 72. Maybe not right away, but it’s going to get there. Getting that, being sustainable, being resolute, staying in the moment, and taking back control of our lives, it’s part of what this book is all about.
Tegan Trovato: Love it. Marvin, our clients have been lucky to work with you in various levels of their career. So you work with our senior executives.
You’ve been happy to work with some high achievers. I know in your firm, you do the same, like you work with a couple different levels of leadership. So I’m curious how you see the book helping men who feel stuck, whether it’s in their careers or stuck in relationship or stuck in their personal growth.
Like how does this book help them get unstuck? Because there’s different ways we grow, right? We know this as coaches.
Sometimes we’re on this like super strengths-based trajectory, and it’s all about turning up the dial. But most of us as humans do not live there. In fact, those are moments we get to have, chapters, right?
So we often find ourselves stuck. So how does this book help with the unsticking?
Marvin Chambers: It helps us see the field, if I had to put it in a nutshell. When we’re stuck, typically we’re in some sort of stress response. We’re in a place where we’re not feeling our true selves, merely not feeling whole.
And those stress reactions fit in where it may be self-doubt, fear, frustration, anger, kind of low vibration behaviors, like I like to call it, or being below the line versus above the line. And so the book is an opportunity for us to kind of see the field again. Often when we’re stuck, it’s not that necessarily how we’re looking at things is wrong.
It’s that our view is incomplete. So this book is about helping us get a much more 360 view of our lives. And when we’re able to do that, we can remove the distractions, which are really what hold us back and keep us stuck.
Whether it’s about some external force, resources, time, relationships, wherever it may be, and refocus on what are our goals? What are our strategies? What’s the vision for ourselves?
What’s the vision for our organization? And we center ourselves on that. And then what you’ll find is you’re able to kind of get a much more 360 view.
Even from a physical perspective, it works. I remember I went through this exercise when I was going through a program on neuromorphistic programming. And they gave us an exercise of, you know, looking straight ahead and then taking your fingers on both sides of your eyes and kind of broadening them out as far from your head as possible to see what your peripheral vision looked like.
And then they said, okay, I want you to focus on any spot on the wall for the next minute. And we did that. And what you found is your peripheral vision actually widened.
So this book is an opportunity to create intentional focus and training yourself to do that on a regular basis. And what you find is your viewpoint on different topics is able to expand. And that’s what this is really all about, to help you expand your view.
Tegan Trovato: I love this. I come back to this perform and conform concept, like that is not 3D life, right? That’s flat living. And what also comes up for me is, it’s not a word you’ve used so far, but it’s the subtext, it’s desire.
Like what do we desire? And I feel like in my own experience in my life and also working with clients, when we are allowing ourselves to feel and acknowledge and pursue what we desire, that makes us 3D. That makes us beyond 3D, right?
Marvin Chambers: Absolutely. And in those moments of the BANI world in which we live in, it’s really easy to forget what we want. We lose sight of it.
It becomes all about the immediate satisfaction of whatever it is. And you can lose yourself and lose sight of what your staff and your team and organization is trying to achieve. Trying to deal with this one thing in the moment.
I’m seeing it a lot today with the chaotic world that we live in right now with our clients. They’re getting stuck on whatever this thing is in the moment and they’re forgetting their vision. They’re forgetting about their strategy.
They’re forgetting about their values. So some of the questions I ask kind of go back to the fundamentals. Okay, how does that align with your value for equity?
How does that align with your value for collaboration? And helping remind them of that because it’s so easy to forget when the stress is off.
Tegan Trovato: Another thing I know you talk a lot about, Marvin, is authenticity and self-discovery. Those are the buckets I put all of that in that you just brought up. So I want to know how the book really gets at the heart of that, but before we go down that path, could you set the stage a little bit for all of us about the societal expectations of men?
And maybe you want to speak specifically to Black men or more broadly to men, wherever you feel inclined to go. I think if you could help share some of that with us first and then come back to how the book helps to address that authenticity and helping others become their truest selves, despite those expectations.
Marvin Chambers: And maybe not to speak for all men, but many of the men that are in my life, many of them Black men and other men of color that I’ve coached, is it’s easy to get caught up in the societal thought that success is all about something external. Money, power, possessions, authority, bigger house, all these external things, and you get there by pure performance. If you’re not performing, the question is what is your value?
And for men in color and particular, we often feel right, wrong, or indifferent that we’re not seen as valuable. However, we expect it to excel, which is a very interesting dichotomy that you find yourself in, which leads to putting on a mask and saying, you know what, in order for me to be safe, in order for me to be able to provide for my family, in order for me to be accepted, I’m going to become something that others want me to be versus being who I really am. And so for me, and I know for you in our coaching practices, it’s often about encouraging that authenticity.
This book is an opportunity to create a safe space for yourself to go back to really reflecting upon who are you really? What is your essence? That it’s okay for you to, first of all, take 10, 15 minutes a day, which is what this book is really all about, not hours, but minutes, to truly center yourself.
Take some time to be in silence for stillness. And what you will find is so many different things will come over you, whether it’s points of view on things that are specific to that particular topic, or other things that are going on in your life. And all of a sudden, that sense of just presence and stillness brings clarity.
Visions come about. You tap into your intuition and your natural sense of knowing. You get comfortable and allow yourself to really feel and move through your emotions in a very real way.
Really start to heal because you get in touch with what truly matters to you. Now what others say should matter, what you want to matter just because of certain people that you want to impress or titles you want to get, you allow yourself to move through that to what truly matters to you, which is really for most of it’s about alignment, understanding our desires, and ensuring that our life’s purpose, our values, the way we operate, and our behaviors all support that. Because when we’re doing that, we’re feeling true to ourselves.
And in that trueness comes freedom. And I think at the end of the day, I think that’s what we all want. And what I often hear from men of color, that’s what they really want.
They want to be free. And that freedom comes in authenticity.
Tegan Trovato: This book is clearly about more than personal success. It is about transformation. So I feel like you’ve answered this question in a few different ways, but I’m going to be direct about it.
So what is it that you want men who read this to awaken within themselves?
Marvin Chambers: To step back, to pause, to breathe, to be intentional, and then keep the promise to yourself. So whatever you find, wherever it is, the parts of you that you love, even the shadows, to embrace them fully, to be present, which is not focused on shame, guilt, “would-of, should-ofs, could-ofs,” or the anxiety of what’s to come, and just be who you are in this moment, on this day. That’s all we can ask for ourselves.
And what I find when we’re able to do that, there’s a sense of joy and freedom that no money, no title, no position, no house could ever buy.
Tegan Trovato: I have a really interesting, potentially softball question here for you, Marvin. What comes up as you say that is, you talked about the mask that many folks are wearing at work to conform. And when I think about your a fellow former HR leader, right, 2,080 hours in a year of work, but we all know that number is far too low because nobody’s only working 40 hours a week.
That’s cute. But if we assume then that at a minimum, we are practicing being a conformed version of ourselves for 2,080 hours a year, what does the practice look like for men to become authentic again, and to even find themselves, and then to practice being themselves, as much as they have practiced being a version the world wants them to be?
Marvin Chambers: It reminds me of one of the books I just really love, The 5 A.M. Club, by Robert Schrupp. And he talks about this notion of health set, heart set, mindset, and soul set. I really find, and personally, I was able to tap into my authenticity and my freedom by really challenging myself, but healing myself in those four areas.
What do I do on a daily basis that pushes me physically? At least a level of perspiration, I found important for me. I’m building that physical strength, I think is important for men in particular.
I think doing things that tap into your emotional wholeness makes your heart sing. For me, it’s inspirational music, a podcast of something that speaks to purpose and authenticity often does it for me, a motivational video. I love Eric Thomas, for example.
In order to do that, connecting with friends, family, I think it’s important because I think sometimes for men, we get so caught up in the work that nothing else matters. It matters, but we’re telling ourselves that these other things are more important because if we don’t perform and take care of families, then what are we? So we move away from that sense of emotional support for ourselves.
Then I think it’s about the mindset, which often this book is a lot about, which is spending time and being intentional, breathing, being present. So practices around that, whatever they may be for you. Then lastly, the soul set.
Are we doing things that tap into our essence? Whether it’s for some people, it may be prayer or it may be a meditation or it may be journaling. What is it that really taps into who you really are and spending time doing?
So I think if you can build practices and routines that way around your health set, your heart set, your mindset, and your soul set, it really helps you gain that clarity to tap into that authenticity.
Tegan Trovato: Thank you for being more specific about that for our listeners because I’ve been a coach for so long, as have you now, right, that when you say tap into your essence, I know exactly what you mean. But we forget that that’s new vocabulary for a lot of folks.
And so essence is very well defined by what you just shared there. And it’s like who we truly are when we are not being, we don’t have our demands of the world upon us. It’s an existential question.
And it’s probably why we’re here is to answer that one, not how do we deliver more, right?
Marvin Chambers: And that’s where the whole notion which we started with a little bit, this whole as above, so below comes into play. I believe if you look at a tree, a tree has a root system and a fruit system. And if you look at both systems, they look alike.
But because of the world, we’re starting to focus just on the fruit system, the money, the jobs, the title, all those things at the expense of the root system, our character, our values, our purpose, right? When we can align the two, which is very doable, that’s when we get to that freedom and that authenticity, what we’re all striving for. So it’s all about centering ourselves to know, to your point, exactly what we want in the fruit system and get clarity around that.
And what does that look like, smell like, taste like for us?
And then, what is it about us, our true selves, that will allow us to get there and staying true to that, so that we can be the thermostats that we want to be at the same time? Very doable. It’s just that we were taught to just focus on one and not the other.
The other, the root system was some sort of like woo-woo, space cadet, intangible thing that doesn’t really matter, and if you do it, it may be a little weird. So it is actually essential for you to have true success.
Tegan Trovato: Thank goodness we’re at a time where that is part of the conversation.
Marvin Chambers: Yes.
Tegan Trovato: And we do see CEOs coming out and talking about how they take care of themselves, how they get to their kids’ soccer games, how they get their sleep, so the grind is getting busted a little bit. In some ways, we’re seeing that more than we ever have. We have a long way to go, to be clear.
Marvin Chambers: We have a long way to go, but I think what is happening is the alternative has been sickness, disease, mental illness, drug abuse, and suicide. There’s a recognition, so we’re kind of getting close to rock bottom.
So when that happens, that’s often when the innovation, the ingenuity comes into play. We’re at least exploring other things that maybe were foreign to us, even taboo for some, and now being more accepting, or at least willing to explore to try to seek to understand.
Tegan Trovato: Yes. Beautiful. And I love that your book is going to help folks do that.
Marvin Chambers: Yes.
Tegan Trovato: Marvin, you have given us so much to think about, and you have, just as a partner in this podcast episode, given me some things to think about and really reflect on. I think whenever we can have a moment with someone like yourself to remind us that we are so much more than our job titles, and our money, and our expectations, and the personas in the community, and our responsibilities, that that’s who we really are, and we can never take too much time to reflect on that. So I will also be leaving here to do a little bit of checking in on myself on that one. So thank you.
I will also be sure for our listeners that we put a link to your book, as well as your email address, so that any leaders who might be interested in the ONYX Leadership Collective can get in touch with you directly, but most certainly easily access your book right away. So, thank you so much for sharing your wisdom with us today.
Marvin Chambers: Thank you, Tegan, for the time.
Tegan Trovato: What a powerful and grounding conversation with Marvin Chambers. His perspective on intentional leadership, especially for men navigating the tension between societal expectations and personal authenticity, offers something we can all learn from, regardless of gender or background. I loved his reminder that we don’t have to fit into the world.
We can show the world who we are and allow it to shape around us. Whether you’re leading an organization, your family, or just trying to lead yourself well, Marvin’s message is clear. Pause, breathe, reflect, and commit to becoming the thermostat, not the thermometer of your own life.
If you’re curious to explore more, be sure to grab a copy of Awakening the ONYX Spirit and check out Marvin’s work through the ONYX Leadership Collective. We’ll link to everything in the show notes so you can easily find your way there. Thanks again for listening to this episode of the Life and Leadership Podcast.
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